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This we share with our Jewish and Moslem brethren. It boggles the mind to think that this ancient wanderer has played such a role in the history of our world and in our own lives as well. I finished this journey in awe of this man. This, alone, makes the journey worthwhile. Format: Hardcover. As I continue my reading to gain better insight into today's conflict with Islamists, I felt it would help to delve into the common roots of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. This book came into view and looked to be a good step in that direction. In fact, it appears to be the very reason Feiler wrote it.

Especially in matters of faith, even the most modern act is informed by centuries of intermingled belief, blood, and misunderstanding. And in that conflagration, as it has for four millennia, one name echoes behind every conversation. One figure stands at the dawn of every subsequent endeavor.

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One individual holds the breadth of the past-and perhaps the dimensions of the future-in his life story. Feiler explores the role of Abraham-part myth, part oral history-in the growth of the three great monotheistic religions. He uses an airy, enthusiastic style that bespeaks wonderment and excitement at every step of the way. Unfortunately, Feiler often displays a pendulum-like tendency towards hyperbole that is distracting.

For example, he refers to Abraham at one point as "the Albert Einstein of his day" In another section he compares Abraham's life to a three-act Hollywood play Incredibly, he goes on to say God was acting "against [His] natural instincts" in this play. This is an amazing statement that bespeaks a presumed, but inappropriate, familiarity with Him.

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Sometimes I got the sense that Feiler just likes to hear himself talk. Still, there are interesting insights along the way-the root meaning of "Arab" 21 and the symbolism of male circumcision 68 , for example. Also, Muhammad's vision Islam stems directly and deliberately from the Jewish interpretation of biblical history Particularly interesting, "Abraham, I was discovering, is not just a gentle man of peace. He's as much a model for fanaticism as he is for moderation His discussion helps to explain religious fanaticism and the willingness of some unfortunately, far too many these days for martyrdom.

Feiler touches on the roots of the enmity between the followers of these religions, but I found his discussion lacking. A few examples pretty well sum up his view: Early, proto-Christians saw the Jews as having "corrupted the Temple There is no third-person narrative in the Koran.

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God speaks directly in all of the text's six thousand two hundred verses" Islam didn't supersede Christianity and Judaism, it preceded them. Islam, in fact, was the faith of Abraham, which his descendants twisted for their own purposes" He provides glimmers of the underlying friction, but they don't go far enough. I had flirted with the idea that since Abraham was the common source of these three great religions, perhaps he could also be their source of reconciliation-a common bond that could serve as a rallying point. If he could be, this book doesn't hold out much optimism.

Overall I found this book only somewhat enlightening, but certainly not to the degree for which I had hoped. It comes across more as a journal of self-discovery punctuated with exposition of the religious meaning or tradition of various aspects of "Abrahamism" to flesh out a book. I'm pleased to have read it, but with an ever-growing reading backlog, had I known more about this book beforehand I would have passed it by.

One person found this helpful. One segment had a panel which included Bruce Feiler. When I heard some of the titles of the books Feiler has written, particularly his book on the circus, I found him rather interesting, but wondered what he would have to say about his scriptural subjects. Feiler shows how each faith tradition uses the same basic story but interprets it in different ways.

Feiler not only shows the different ways in which the Abraham story is interpreted, but also how these interpretations have often led to divisions as well. In light of the present world situation, Feiler's observations could be prophetic and could lead to a better understanding of that which decides so many.

The book is written from a perspective of faith, which is probably its greatest strength. Feiler has a great appreciation of scripture and seems to make a great effort at finding authorities on Abraham that are both experts and people of faith. For this reason, the book gives the reader a great deal to ponder. Readers also see that Feiler himself is journeying in his faith: he is both rediscovering the faith of his childhood and discovering a more vibrant mature faith. His ability to bring in his own experiences while not making the book about himself is admirable and allows the reader to become engaged in the book and perhaps see their own spiritual journey.

Readers should note that while this book is carefully researched, it is not a scholarly work and there are a few small errors in the book, but the errors are small and do not detract from the overall message of the book.

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For example, Muhlestein presented at the Joseph Smith Papers conference last November on his analysis of the hieratic marginal characters in the Book of Abraham manuscripts. How are we to know who is right or wrong before critically engaging both theories? I appreciate his work and insight, but many of his conclusions are, I believe, debatable, and his slams against Gee and Muhlestein are unfortunate. Like Liked by 1 person.

As a form of epistemology, you are right. But, it is noteworthy. So, I cannot comment on that. Especially since they are previous co-authors, university colleagues, etc. It is far more than a simple academic disagreement. He questions their very ability and even integrity, to perform scholarship. It shows a significant rift in the believing perspective. I agree with your point, though. In order to determine who is right in the debate, it would require critically analyzing both perspectives. Like Like. My name is Ed Goble.

The evidence that he is right on this has always been overwhelming. On the other hand, I agree with Muhlstien and others that there was an ancient text of the Book of Abraham written by Abraham, just that it is no longer extant and was never in the hands of Joseph Smith.

My perspective has always been that the pairings of characters to content are ancient. And I explain how in my paper, and in my foundational articles on my blog. My position is kind of a middle point between the positions of apologists like Nibley and Muhlstien who hold to the idea of a no-longer extant papyrus from ancient times, yet how the forensic evidence that Hauglid espouses actually is complimentary to this view, if only people would see how it works.

And the pairings between sections of the Book of Abraham text and these markers functioned as meaningful ancient Egyptian puns between the content and the markers. These facts are evident when the puns are manifest by reverse engineering of the pairing relationships between the English content and the symbols in the Kirtland Papers. Therefore, not only is Hauglid right about the forensic evidence, but the pairings between the characters derived from the Hor papyrus and the English text are ancient, having been derived from a no-longer-extant papyrus that Joseph Smith never had.

Sorry, I should give some further clarification on what I wrote above in my last comment. I mean to say that I agree with Hauglid and the critics on the forensic evidence as far as it goes, about what Joseph Smith had physically to work with, and that the content is aligned with the characters from the Hor papyrus. And I agree with Hauglid that Joseph Smith never physically had another papyrus in his hands that contained the Book of Abraham text.

As for where the content of the text of the Book of Abraham came from, I believe anciently there WAS another papyrus that had this content, but that that papyrus had the Hor symbols on it listed with the content in an ancient language paired with each symbol as it is in the Kirtland Papers.

This ancient papyrus that contained the actual text aligned with the symbols from the Hor papyrus is what existed in ancient times, and what Joseph Smith never had. Joseph Smith reconstructed the structure of this ancient source in creating the Kirtland Papers. This is where I differ with Hauglid. But my view also harmonizes with this forensic evidence that Hauglid and Jensen present.

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Although my evidence of the puns that I speak of between the content and the symbols is the evidence that indicates that an ancient source existed with them juxtaposed together, as I said. It was a redaction of the Book of Abraham created by an ancient scribe, which the Hor papyrus symbols as section markers. This is the way I explain the existence of the puns that are evident between content and symbols, because the puns are ancient.

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